Wife bought this for me because she thought it would go perfectly with a particular shirt of mine. (and it does)...... But, I tried to put it on and it just wouldn't fit right. No matter how I tied it, I looked like one of those fat used car salesmen who's tie only reaches halfway down their belly. Except I'm not a big guy. In my frustration, I finally compared it to my other ties and figured out it's ~6 inches shorter than all the rest. I'm guessing it's a youth tie.